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  • Oct. 8th, 2006 at 3:22 AM
H Jail
I can't believe this.  Some crackpot group calling themselves the American Decency Association has launched a campaign against Studio 60 and it's advertisers - Talk about life imitating art eh?

What amused me most was the suggested "Letter" that all good concerned Christians should be writing to these bad bad companies who support the moral downfall of American society by supporting such shows as Grey's Anatomy and Desparate Housewives and now Studio 60.

They even went as far as supplying their would be "Sheep" with a list of places they could vent these letters to - most links take you right to the company's feed back page.

[info]teresadivicenzo struck onto a rather nifty ploy.  One I am fully in agreement with.  If they can rally behind the "Batsignal" as it were - why can't we.

i mean they have been so nice to do all the leg work for us - so we can use their own putrid pack mentality against them.

Dear Sir/Madam

I understand that the American Decency Association is organising a letter writing campaign to your company in protest at your advertising sponsorship of the NBC show “Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip”. They are accusing you of empowering the bashing of Christianity by choosing to sponsor “Studio 60”.

As a Christian I am informing you that as long as you align your advertising dollars with show, I will absolutely continue to do business with your company as I believe that freedom of speech and expression are of the highest importance, and NBC, the executive producers of the show Aaron Sorkin and Thomas Schlamme, and all those involved in the production of this show should be entitled to legitimately discuss my faith within our democracy. I congratulate your company on its involvement in raising the level of debate in the United States.

Yours faithfully,


I encourage all my friends if you are so inclined to do the same.  they might only get one positive to 300,000 negatives - but the advertisers know that the protesters are mostly lunatics anyway.  So ours may mean more to them.  We can but try!

I am so royally sick of these type of whack jobs thinking it is their god given right to be the moral police for everyone!  I am a christian myself and the greatest gift that I think God ever gave me was common sense and free will.  We have to make up our own minds - not have it force fed to us by ANYONE!

It ticked me off so much... I just had to respond to the creator of the site - I am guessing I'm not going to be on his Christmas card list this year!

Dear Sir,

I was recently forwarded a link to your page regarding the scandalous Studio 60
and your campaign to encourage advertisers to stop promoting their products in
the show.

I'm not from America, I live in Australia - also another country founded on
Judeo-Christian values.  I am a Christian myself and consider myself to be a
decent upstanding person.

I was just writing to thank you for opening my eyes to this situation.

It truly went a long way to held solidify something in my heart.

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It made truly realize that the creators of the show GOT IT COMPLETELY RIGHT!

What kind of right do you have calling yourself Christian when you seem to be
without the most basic of all of Christs teachings?  Understanding and Tolerence?

It is groups like this that makes it hard for the rest of us Christians who are
trying to be decent people while living in a fallen society.  If you DARE deny
that there are fringe elements of our religion who do more damage to us as a
religious society than anything else then I will call you a liar to your face!

You send out emails by the bucketload that are erroneous and unfortunately the
"SHEEP" of your flock will rally behind your flag because they do not possess
the individual mental faculties to make an informed decision on their own and
will send their little letters off.

For your information, and in case you haven't seen the show yourself. When the
character of Wes said "Psycho" and "Whackjob" he didn't say CHRISTIAN... he said
RELIGIOUS CULT... So - are you admitting by getting antsy about this that you are
a Religious Cult?  Gee Whiz mister - isn't that what the Taliban is too?

Your type of "holier than thou" puritanical claptrap boils my blood, because it
is far more harmful to society than good.  How about you look into your own
closets a little more deeply sir.  I am sure that there are a few skeletons in
your baggage.

It's a TV show!  You don't like it?  Turn off your own TV - you have no right to
dictate what others watch - Christ died to ensure that we have freedom of choice
- you are working against the most fundamental of all Christian Teachings.

And you are looking like a fool doing it!

Yours in contempt

It's bullshit from these types of people who make it so much hard for the rest of us.  Because we are all painted with the same brush.  I can't talk about my faith to people without them rolling their eyes and getting a "here comes the sermon" look on their face.

I have never tried to convert anyone nor will I ever - if people are genuinely interested in my journey I am happy to tell them my story - and THAT'S it!  It's not up to me to force it down peoples throats - if they want answers to their questions I will help as best I can.

This sort of crap makes me feel ashamed of my faith.  And that's just plain WRONG!

PS - Like "OUR" Batsignal?

Comments

[info]etherpunk wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 03:57 am (UTC)
I caught your post that linked to here over at [info]studio_60. While I'm not Christian myself, I completely agree with how you're going about this.

I think it's the first show I've seen to really portray Christians in a decent light - Harriet's easily one of the more likeable characters on the show, and she understands sometimes it's OK to make fun of who you are for the sake of making others laugh.
[info]ozzyols wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 04:05 am (UTC)
Obviously if you aren't Christian and you still want to support the cause, Just edit the "As a Christian" bit out of the front of the second paragraph and you can still get your point across :D
[info]teresadivicenzo wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 04:30 am (UTC)

The ADA were indeed so helpful in posting those links it took me all of 10 minutes to email this to the companies concerned.

"Dear Sir/Madam,

I understand that the American Decency Association is organising a letter writing campaign to your company in protest at your advertising sponsorship of the NBC show “Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip”. They are accusing you of empowering the bashing of Christianity by choosing to sponsor “Studio 60”. As a Christian I am informing you that as long as you align your advertising dollars with this show, I will absolutely continue to do business with your company as I believe that freedom of speech and expression are of the highest importance, and NBC, the executive producers of the show Aaron Sorkin and Thomas Schlamme, and all those involved in the production of this show should be entitled to legitimately discuss my faith within a democracy. I congratulate your company on its involvement in raising the level of debate.

Yours faithfully..."
[info]drakefn wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 03:59 am (UTC)
I agree with this post 100%!!!
[info]teresadivicenzo wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 04:24 am (UTC)
Well I have emailed Mr Johnson of the ADA and am eagerly awaiting a reply to this:

"Dear Mr Johnson,

I recently received an email from a friend that stated
that NBC had broadcast an episode of "Studio 60 on the
Sunset Strip" and included a sketch entitled "Crazy
Christians". I am an Orthodox Christian and would be
very upset if I am being depicted as "crazy" in an
way. I did not see the show as I did not think it was
really going to be something I was going to enjoy
anyway. Would you please be so kind as to tell me what
precisely the content of this sketch was so I can
contact NBC to express any concerns I may have.

Many thanks for your help in this matter.

Yours sincerely,

teresadivicenzo"
(Anonymous) wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 04:25 am (UTC)
That is what I loved most about Bartlet, and now Harriet. Both are deeply religious, but understand that faith comes within and one person's opinion should not be forced on the masses.
[info]pokey_isdead wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 04:27 am (UTC)
That was me, just to clarify.
[info]buttercup31 wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 04:30 am (UTC)
I agree with every word you said.
[info]teresadivicenzo wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 04:50 am (UTC)
I cannot, cannot understand why all reasonable debate goes flying out the window where some groups are concerned. For a while now there have been a group of people on Television Without Pity discussing the theme of religion in the Harriet Hayes thread and now the Religion thread. Nobody has made an offensive comment. Nobody has shown any disrespect towards any faith or person on the threads. It angers me deeply that when someone in Hollywood is producing a show (let's leave aside the fact that President Bartlet was a Catholic who confessed on his knees in the Oval Office) that places a Christian character front and centre and a debate about religion front and centre, that even mainstream Christian publications who are delighted at this are drowned out by the likes of the ADA and AFA. Short of Hollywood shutting up shop, I'm not entirely sure what it is they want. I am fed up of these groups making all the noise. For what it's worth, which I'm sure is very little, I wanted to write and show my support for this show.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 04:51 am (UTC)
From UTB
Hmm - some of this looks familar Ozzy! :D

I like what you have to say and I agree - but you knew that I would because you stole my "Sheep" idea!

I'll email you privately.
[info]londiniensis wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 06:47 am (UTC)
Studio 60
Hi ozzyols! Just dropping in to express support and admiration for your taking on the "not-so-fringe" who are poisoning all discourse on religion and who seem to have hi-jacked the name of "Christian". I've been ranting rather heavily on the TWoP S60 Religion thread recently (as Londoner) but had better desist as JoeR will close it down (again). I'll follow your progress on this with keen anticipation, but don't want to e-mail the ADA/AFA idiots myself directly (yet anyway) until I set up another mail account! Good Wishes, Londoner / Londiniensis
[info]teresadivicenzo wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 07:36 am (UTC)
Re: Studio 60
I think you can guess who I am on TWoP from my userpic here and I am still eagerly anticipating my reply from the ADA. I give the thread on TWoP 3 more days max! Although as I said before, the two threads there are more reasonable than most things posted on internet fora about this subject. It is highly emotive, but that's why I enjoy discussing it. I find it fascinating. Unless someone was being a total bigot, I'm all ears to hear any opinion.

I must confess I am sick to the back teeth of "defending" Sorkin on this. He may have the attention span of a gnat when it comes to story arcs, he may not write believable romance, but he does not kick people of faith in the teeth. He ridicules hypocrites and extremes. I've just posted yet again, and I think I'm going to give up soon, that he has a track record on TWW of showing people of other faiths. Toby was seen going to Temple. Joey Lucas was a Quaker. How does this make Sorkin anti-religion? He may have shown disdain towards Mary Marsh, but there was nothing but respect shown for the Rev. Al Caldwell. And for the 504,763 time I will say this: Bartlet confessed to a Priest on his knees in the Oval Office. How much more powerful a symbol of Christianity do you want depicted on prime time television?

By the way londiniensis - love Steed and Mrs Peel. Coolest couple.
[info]londiniensis wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 01:43 pm (UTC)
Re: Studio 60
I did indeed guess, although I don't think that they are Jimmy Choos!
Did you see "The Times" letters page yesterday? I don't know how to link on LJ so I am copying this below. We "mainstream" Christians don't need the lunatic fringe to bring us down - we're good enough at doing it ourselves.

(start of quote)
The Times October 07, 2006
Unorthodox celebrations
Sir, The golden jubilee celebrations at the Russian Orthodox Cathedral, in London, planned for next weekend, have nothing to do with those of us who have been an integral part of the parish and its life over the past 50 years.
The organisers are representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate, which staged a coup in May and has taken temporary possession of our church, after the forced retirement of Bishop Basil of Sergievo.
After leasing this beautiful Grade II listed church — a treasure of English heritage — by kind courtesy of the Church of England, we bought it in 1978. The money was raised against all odds by a loyal core of parishioners (many of whom were White Russians in exile), part of the flock of Metropolitan Anthony of Sourozh, who chose as his successor Bishop Basil.
We — a body of several hundred — disassociate ourselves from these jubilee events. The organisers and clergy involved (under the temporary authority of Archbishop Innokentii of Korsun) purport to be continuing the life of the parish, but have nothing to do with the inception of this cathedral, nor its parish, nor its diocese. It appears that perestroika did not reach the Moscow Patriarchate, which continues to conduct its affairs in Soviet style.
As “refugees” from the cathedral that has been our lifeblood and place of worship for the past 50 years, we are having to worship elsewhere (again by kind courtesy of the Church of England) until such time as the Charities Commission and English law see fit to return it to its rightful congregation. RUTH NARES London W11
(end of quote)


[info]teresadivicenzo wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 05:59 pm (UTC)
Re: Studio 60
Oh Jimmy Choose they are. But scroll back up this page and there's a very nice Stuart Weitzman there as well. But I digress. What's going on in west London is sad to watch, but it is also unrepresentative of what is going on in other Orthodox churches in the UK. Some of them are of the ADA ilk I would think.
[info]jayne_190 wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 07:01 am (UTC)
As a Christian myself, I agree with the position you have taken in regards to Studio 60.

While the ADA thinks that somehow it should act as a moral guide and compass for the Christians who decide to watch Grey's, DH, etc., it should also realize that even if people support their position, they aren't going to support it 100% and will realize that there are some very good things about each of the shows it talks about boycotting.

Personally, I really don't care what those sorts of fanatics think they can get away with, especially when they don't use the brain God gave them to realize that they are only entertainment and that people see far worse on the news than they do on a night-time drama/soap.

Wish they would give their heads a shake.
[info]_workinprogress wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 09:26 am (UTC)
I'd stay more courteous (couteous contempt-y) in the secondletter.
no need to stoop to their level.

I think pointing out that the show address their lunatic tendencies and din't 'attack' their faith is enough.
They writers have a problem with them. not their faith.

*sigh* I don't live in the US.
sometimes I really hate that. All the fun debates are going on over there.
On the upside, that would probably never happen in my country.
(on the downside there is rarely ever any public outrage over anything. except money. and even that is limited. *kicks apathatic population* anybody still alive?)
[info]teresadivicenzo wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 06:03 pm (UTC)
Come and join us in the UK if you're not here. We have a fun debate too. Creationism is now on the GCSE Biology paper at the 3rd biggest exam board apparently. From the BBC earlier on this year:

Creationism to be in GCSE papers

Creationism is not taught as a subject in schools
Creationist theories about how the world was made are to be debated in GCSE science lessons in mainstream secondary schools in England.
The subject has been included in a new syllabus for biology produced by the OCR exam board, due out in September.

Critics say the matter should only be discussed in R.E. because there is a danger of elevating religious theories to the status of scientific ones.

The government insists creationism is not being taught as a subject.

The exam board says students need to understand the background to theories.

Its new "Gateway to Science" curriculum asks pupils to examine how organisms become fossilised.

Teachers are asked to "explain that the fossil record has been interpreted differently over time (e.g. creationist interpretation)".

Contentious

OCR, one of the three main exam boards in England, said that the syllabus was intended to make students aware of scientific controversy.

A spokesperson for the exam board said candidates needed to understand the social and historical context to scientific ideas both pre and post Darwin's theory of evolution.

"Candidates are asked to discuss why the opponents of Darwinism thought the way they did and how scientific controversies can arise from different ways of interpreting empirical evidence," he said.

"Creationism and 'intelligent design' are not regarded by OCR as scientific theories. They are beliefs that do not lie within scientific understanding."

The area is contentious, with critics claiming that inclusion of creationist or intelligent design theories in science syllabuses unduly elevates them.

James Williams, science course leader at Sussex University's school of education, told the Times Educational Supplement: "This opens a legitimate gate for the inclusion of creationism or intelligent design in science classes as if they were legitimate theories on a par with evolution fact and theory.

"I'm happy for religious theories to be considered in religious education, but not in science where consideration could lead to a false verification of their status as being equal to scientific theories."

The Qualifications and Curriculum Authority, which oversees the development of the national curriculum, in effect guiding exam boards, said discussions of "intelligent design" or "creationism" could take place in science classes.

The National Curriculum Online website says for science at Key Stage 4 (GCSE level): "Students should be taught how scientific controversies can arise from different ways of interpreting empirical evidence (for example Darwin's theory of evolution)."

Classes should also cover "ways in which scientific work may be affected by the context in which it takes place (for example, social, historical, moral, spiritual), and how these contexts may affect whether or not ideas are accepted."

A spokesperson for the Department for Education and Skills said: "Neither creationism nor intelligent design are taught as a subject in schools and are not specified in the science curriculum".

In the United States, there have been court cases over what schools should teach.

Last month scientists there protested against a movement to teach intelligent design - the theory that life is so complex that it must be the work of a supernatural designer.

In December, a judge in Pennsylvania said it was unconstitutional to make teachers feature the concept of intelligent design in science lessons.

In England, the Emmanuel Schools Foundation, sponsored by Christian car dealer Sir Peter Vardy, has been criticised for featuring creationist theories in lessons in the three comprehensives it runs.

Sir Peter has said the schools present both Darwin's evolutionary theory and creationism.

In 2003, he said: "One is a theory, the other is a faith position. It is up to the children."


[info]caz963 wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 12:04 pm (UTC)
OFFS!!! Well as you say, these people are just serving to prove Sorkin's point. And for some groups, there is no such thing as "reasonable debate". All they promote is "I'm right and you're wrong" and that's as far as they can see. It's a sad thing when even to just raise the subject of religion, in whatever context, to suggest that maybe it would be a good idea to have some sort of civilised debate about it is automatically shot down in flames by some group or other.
[info]aaeryn wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 05:30 pm (UTC)
I have emailed everyone including that American D. Guy. As a Christian, I am not offended, and reminded him that KKK is an example of Christian extremists. It's a sad day when i have to take time out of my day and email companies defending my right to watch a show. Now I have to go shopping at these companies and buy more stuff from them to make up for that 1% who will actually boycott for all of a day before they forget.
[info]teresadivicenzo wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 06:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but I still can't bring myself to eat Kentucky Fried Chicken. Aaron Sorkin or no Aaron Sorkin.
[info]omearalee wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 06:29 pm (UTC)
A friend of mine doesn't like the show because she finds it offensive. "Didn't you see the premiere?" she said. "Yeah," I said. "It was fabulous!"

I think that these people are just too uptight about these things. So what if you don't agree with what they say. No body's forcing you to watch it. I just hate people like that. I agree; it's the right that makes me ashamed of my faith.

And my slash. But that's neither here nor there.

Hooray for the Batsignal!
[info]pokey_isdead wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 07:05 pm (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, what did she find offensive about the premiere?
[info]omearalee wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 07:08 pm (UTC)
I don't know. I can only assume it was the Crazy Christians thing. I don't understand her. She's really snobby about being better than everyone else because she goes to church, but then the next thing out of her mouth was about being caught in compromising situations with her boyfriend. :rolls eyes:
[info]boheme06 wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 09:38 pm (UTC)
Best post ever. I'm behind this 100%
[info]hooloovoo_42 wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 10:53 pm (UTC)
Another reason to wear my Old Navy t-shirts more and more, especially when I'm teaching. But I don't do KFC.

I have never tried to convert anyone nor will I ever - if people are genuinely interested in my journey I am happy to tell them my story - and THAT'S it! It's not up to me to force it down peoples throats - if they want answers to their questions I will help as best I can.

You're me, you are.
[info]teresadivicenzo wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 11:11 pm (UTC)
I'm posting this Gap Ad now in protest against the ADA. I seem to recall that I have a shortage of jeans and jumpers for the winter. I think Gap and Old Navy might be just the place to start. I cannot wait to see what these organisations are going to go nuts at next. They'll already have letters ready no doubt. I'll give odds of 2-1 that Gay Marriage will be next. Any takers?
[info]carrine wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2006 01:37 am (UTC)
I totally agree with what you said. I'm a Christian myself and I love Grey's Anatomy and Studio 60.
[info]dancinbutterfly wrote:
Oct. 12th, 2006 11:30 pm (UTC)
who do we write this too?
[info]ozzyols wrote:
Oct. 13th, 2006 05:02 am (UTC)
For the "Pro" marketing campaign follow the links to the ADA site - they have kindly provided us with all the leg work (ie listing the advertisers... giving email/web addresses) then it's just a case of cut and paste.
[info]dancinbutterfly wrote:
Oct. 13th, 2006 05:12 am (UTC)
they're that stupid? seriously?

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